OOC Note: Unfortunately, this thread is not open. Me and the other writer working on this are writing on Thalas' past, so much of it has "happened," meaning that certain events have to of occurred to make him who he is. It isn't perfectly planned out, but there is a rough idea we are working with in respect to historical dates and references.
Though Thalas' name changed slowly over time from Thracius to Thalas, for sake of clarity the "old Thalas" will always be referred to as Thracius, where as the current day Thalas will be referred to as Thalas, since this thread will eventually be concerned with old Thalas returning to his past.
Thalas' story takes place in Rome and we used historical references for the characters and who they were related to and what was going on socially and politically at the time. As is with all things historical, dates are debatable, but we may name some of them to give the story a more concrete feel to it. It isn't a declaration that those date are facts.
FYI-- This information is meant to help those who read this thread to have a better understanding of what is going on and why.
**Recall that BC dates go backwards. So a twenty year old man is born in 140BC and is twenty by 120BC. You may notice for some recent history books that BC (before Christ) as turned into BCE (before the common era) and AD has become CE (common era).
**The story begins roughly 146 BC with the end of the third Punic war where Carthage is defeated by the Romans (many historians refer to this war as being more of a skirmish, since it didn't last long and the outcome was predictable ). After the second Punic War with Carthage, Cato the Elder decrees that "Carthage must be destroyed." The Romans launch into the third Punic War, destroy Carthage and enslave its people. Carthage was wealthy country which was liked and disliked for several reasons. First, the Carthaginians believed in child sacrifice for religious purposes (the Romans did animal sacrifices, but for more economically based purposes) and the Romans were disgusted with the behavior. Truthfully though, Carthage had a lot of material gain if they took it. Also, the Romans believed that if Carthage was left it would rebuild and another war would erupt. So they launched themselves into the third Punic war and Carthage was destroyed in 146 BC.
This is a map, approximately before the third Punic war, to give you an idea of the location of the Carthaginians with respect to the Romans.
Rome is Red. Carthage is Blue.
http://usera.ImageCave.com/DKK2009/CarthageandRome.gif.jpg
**Slavery, for the Romans, is somewhat different than on American standards. There is some ambiguity about how slavery was applied to the children of slaves. Many resources say that children of slaves were slaves themselves, others say they were born free. This lends us to believe it was at the discretion of the owner. There was also no racial implication behind being a slave. Slaves sometimes married into families, or became beloved members with beautiful tombs upon their death. Some slaves were treated poorly but overall owning a slave was a sign of status, an expensive investment, and not one that should be treated poorly. Also, if a slave could amass the money their owner paid to purchase them, they had the right to buy their own freedom. Point being that there were differences in Roman ideas of slaves and slavery than what American slavery was.
***This Storyline isn't about slavery, but slavery is in it.
*** Despite the fact that there is a lot of history in this story, it is not historical fiction. In other words, this is not going to be a "what if" for some historical event. It's just being staged in a particular time period.
** What is the political system at the time? Right now it is still the Roman Republic, though this is taking place as the Republic is coming to an end. The Roman Empire won't start until Augustus in about 27 bc. The Roman Republic is a bit like our own government. There is the Senate, the Consul, the Tribune, ect (but those are the big ones).
** There is a mature warning for this story. While it is not intended to be graphic... war, slavery, vampires, etc, are graphic topics. You've been duly warned.
For those with an interest in the story, this is a rough time line of major events that you may recognize and orient yourself with.
*Elissa is of Carthage, Thalas/Thracius is of Rome.
* 146-121 BC: The Gracchi Reforms
*The Roman Empire was founded in 509 BC
*When does our story take place in respect to Julius Caesar? He was around 100BC-44BC. Our story starts 146 BC, so about 54 years before Caesar is born.
** what about Spartacus and that revolt? That's 73-73 bc.
*Decline of Roman Empire- This is up to much debate, but we use roughly 476 AD when Romulus Augustus, the last Emperor of the Western Roman Empire was deposed by Odoacer. What does this mean? Our story takes place during the classic, or golden years of Rome.
There are a great many more details about the story going on that will be unveiled as it is written. It is involved with the other thread on this folder titled "Divining." If you have a question or an interest, feel free to PM me.
~Thalas Mun
Though Thalas' name changed slowly over time from Thracius to Thalas, for sake of clarity the "old Thalas" will always be referred to as Thracius, where as the current day Thalas will be referred to as Thalas, since this thread will eventually be concerned with old Thalas returning to his past.
Thalas' story takes place in Rome and we used historical references for the characters and who they were related to and what was going on socially and politically at the time. As is with all things historical, dates are debatable, but we may name some of them to give the story a more concrete feel to it. It isn't a declaration that those date are facts.
FYI-- This information is meant to help those who read this thread to have a better understanding of what is going on and why.
**Recall that BC dates go backwards. So a twenty year old man is born in 140BC and is twenty by 120BC. You may notice for some recent history books that BC (before Christ) as turned into BCE (before the common era) and AD has become CE (common era).
**The story begins roughly 146 BC with the end of the third Punic war where Carthage is defeated by the Romans (many historians refer to this war as being more of a skirmish, since it didn't last long and the outcome was predictable ). After the second Punic War with Carthage, Cato the Elder decrees that "Carthage must be destroyed." The Romans launch into the third Punic War, destroy Carthage and enslave its people. Carthage was wealthy country which was liked and disliked for several reasons. First, the Carthaginians believed in child sacrifice for religious purposes (the Romans did animal sacrifices, but for more economically based purposes) and the Romans were disgusted with the behavior. Truthfully though, Carthage had a lot of material gain if they took it. Also, the Romans believed that if Carthage was left it would rebuild and another war would erupt. So they launched themselves into the third Punic war and Carthage was destroyed in 146 BC.
This is a map, approximately before the third Punic war, to give you an idea of the location of the Carthaginians with respect to the Romans.
Rome is Red. Carthage is Blue.
http://usera.ImageCave.com/DKK2009/CarthageandRome.gif.jpg
**Slavery, for the Romans, is somewhat different than on American standards. There is some ambiguity about how slavery was applied to the children of slaves. Many resources say that children of slaves were slaves themselves, others say they were born free. This lends us to believe it was at the discretion of the owner. There was also no racial implication behind being a slave. Slaves sometimes married into families, or became beloved members with beautiful tombs upon their death. Some slaves were treated poorly but overall owning a slave was a sign of status, an expensive investment, and not one that should be treated poorly. Also, if a slave could amass the money their owner paid to purchase them, they had the right to buy their own freedom. Point being that there were differences in Roman ideas of slaves and slavery than what American slavery was.
***This Storyline isn't about slavery, but slavery is in it.
*** Despite the fact that there is a lot of history in this story, it is not historical fiction. In other words, this is not going to be a "what if" for some historical event. It's just being staged in a particular time period.
** What is the political system at the time? Right now it is still the Roman Republic, though this is taking place as the Republic is coming to an end. The Roman Empire won't start until Augustus in about 27 bc. The Roman Republic is a bit like our own government. There is the Senate, the Consul, the Tribune, ect (but those are the big ones).
** There is a mature warning for this story. While it is not intended to be graphic... war, slavery, vampires, etc, are graphic topics. You've been duly warned.
For those with an interest in the story, this is a rough time line of major events that you may recognize and orient yourself with.
*Elissa is of Carthage, Thalas/Thracius is of Rome.
* 146-121 BC: The Gracchi Reforms
*The Roman Empire was founded in 509 BC
*When does our story take place in respect to Julius Caesar? He was around 100BC-44BC. Our story starts 146 BC, so about 54 years before Caesar is born.
** what about Spartacus and that revolt? That's 73-73 bc.
*Decline of Roman Empire- This is up to much debate, but we use roughly 476 AD when Romulus Augustus, the last Emperor of the Western Roman Empire was deposed by Odoacer. What does this mean? Our story takes place during the classic, or golden years of Rome.
There are a great many more details about the story going on that will be unveiled as it is written. It is involved with the other thread on this folder titled "Divining." If you have a question or an interest, feel free to PM me.
~Thalas Mun