Topic: Celtic Cross

The Redneck

Date: 2012-03-12 11:31 EST
"I know." Hushing laughter as he settled to make space for the cards lay. "The Celtic cross. I'm lazy." And, it was a good general purpose reading. The first he set down... "This is you, where you are now. Eight of pentacles." A man, pleasantly engrossed in work, scribing the same pattern over eight times, of course. The card was inverted. "It is a steady and strong path. Boring, some, but you know it well, and it pleases you to do it well." And after Elizas' reading, he wasn't so quick to discount an inversion!

He could have told her that he was setting the cards out hop-scotch and he'd have gotten the same small smile and nod. No clue. Tarot wasn't her usual form of divination.

Hop-Scotch reading takes too long.

A short series of shallow nods, a twist of her lips, and shoulder shrug signalled her acceptance and relaitve understanding. That, and yes it was spot on. "Why do an'thin' if y're not gonna do it t' the best of y'r ability?" Made total sense to the redneck.
And more bouncing?

"The next is what crosses you, what is helping or hindering..." Murmuring as he drew the next card to lay across the first. Four of swords, a stone effigy of a knight lain over his tomb, four blade, one on the tomb, the others at the windows to the tomb. "Static, stasis -- something is sleeping, something is ... gone." Murmuring as he regarded the card. "Waiting for nothing, waiting... Waiting. But for what?"

There wasn't any nodding or shrugging this time, just a small full-framed jolt. That, really could be a lot of things. "For those who were, and now aren't to return. Or for a dreamer to awaken and finally reach again maybe?" Too many possibilities really. Neither of the two she put forth were comfortable.

"Yes." Simply, to both, lifting his gaze, quiet and somber, to her. And, he waited, it seemed. To see if she was willing to go on.

She was, after a fashion, at least insofar as it pertained to the first offering she'd made. "When I went down, there were sixty in here with me." A light tap to the side of her head. Sharing mental space after an interesting fashion. "Then, they brought me back, an' less than a quarter of them are here still." Forced integration 'killed' more than remaining broken saved. "Or, I need to wake up and start deciding again. Deciding for me instead of for the people around me." Either way, well she'd had one hell of a rough year.

There was a faint dip of a nod, a fainter touch of smile. Then, his gaze lowered, moving to draw the next card. Almost as if she hadn't spoken, but oh, yes. He had heard. "Distant past, the foundation on which you build..."

That one, could be seriously painful.

If anyone noticed, he often transposed positions. It was all in whom he read for. To the right of the cross, he laid down a card. "The World." A complex card. Archangel, Hawk, Lion, Bull, clockwise on the edges. A laurel surrounding a blonde maiden dancing apparently holding two rods. "Strange." Murmured, head tilting. "Do you see the apocalypse there, or do you see the four elements? Completion, or a beginning?"

Avian cant of her head to the right, the wrist thick braid swung free, unnoticed. An auburn brow arched in confusion while she waited for the translation and explanation. That, wasn't reassuring Des. Amethyst eyes locked, unfocused on the card. To see what could be seen. "I see, the elements mostly." Mostly because everything had its place in the world, life and death were opposite sides of the same coin. "A beginning." She sounded a shade unsure but not much.

"They are both the same." Quiet with the meet and hold of her gaze. "You stand upon the shoulders of an embarrassment of possibility and ills. And you are still dancing, yes?"

She flinched, a flicker of withdrawal and tension in the hollow of her throat. "Not as much as I was. Least once every couple of weeks though. It..helps sometimes, when I can't get my head around something on m' own." Without the clarity of dancing in a circle until exhaustion drug you to the ground.

"Future influence. What will affect what is to come." Murmuring, attention lowering back to the deck, and drawing six of cups. Two children, peacefully playing with flowers in large urns. A boy and girl, a pretty and lovely card. Inverted, but, this time, he knew why. His smile was sudden as it was warm, his gaze tilting upwards again, the dimple pressed into his cheek. Not a word, yet.

....She's not about to have children.

She has two already.

Well, not of her own birthing. "So...What influences my future is something I want, but don't like to admit to wanting that I'll have t' work m' ass off for?" Her interpretation of the card and it's inversion yes.

"Yes. And, I think, literally, William and Dorian. --Family."

Her lips moved forming words without breath to carry them 'but I already admitted to wanting them.' She shook her head, smiling brightly at the end of it. "Family, the kind that matters, 's damn important t' me." Like that wasn't completely obvious to anyone who looked. Or paid attention.

He did read lips, sign language as well. A nod dipped, a slight touch of shrug. "What they will be, will be of more importance soon. To guide, and guard, and love. I think, too, what you had said."
No greeting, yet, for Eleanor, though he knew she was there. Focused, yes.

"T' work m' ass off." She nodded in time with the words. Flag of a wave Elle's way for a greeting. Rather absorbed, just not as much as Des was. "To tend what's close t' m' heart." Murmured with broken warmth like liquid gold. "T' do f'r them, t' help them, like m' gramma did f'r me. Only more, 'cause 've got more."

His smile was sweet, for the moment it lasted. A nod more implied than actual. And drawing the next card, yes. "Recent past events." This, below the cross. Funny she should mention her Gramma. High Priestess was set beneath. A woman in ceremonial and simple robes throned between black and white pillars, palms. A headdress of the triumvirate moon, three pomegranates overhead. A scroll in her arms. "What you have decided, it was true." He offered. Because... Well. If she wanted more, she might stuff a sock in his mouth.

Recent past, is a very subjective term isn't it? Head tipped to the right, she'd decided a lot of things that, that might apply to. Obviously, she was missing something. "Need a better map Des." She wouldn't stuff a sock in his mouth. Really. She didn't have one handy at any rate.

"I think, this was an influence, yes, your grandmother." He agreed with a hushing of laughter. "But she is self reliance, objectivity, the taming of emotion, platonic relations." Though, as she asked, he did reach for a second card to clarify, opening the deck to the middle for it.

...And promptly started to laugh as he laid the Queen of Pentacles over the Priestess, the sound clear and alien, joyful, for its few moments.

She didn't like that map, at least that would be what the sharp downward tug of her lips at their corners might have meant. "I really do hope that that doesn' mean 'm gonna hook up with a dark haired woman anytime soon." Not that she preferred the romantic company of women. But, well she had to make a joke to go along with the youth's laughter.

"No, no. This is past. It's because Miss Ella was sending you love notes." Lying, yes, but he took another card. "I think, there are deep connections to your grandmother, perhaps you haven't drawn out yet." Picking on Ella, well, because she was there.

And there was only a lift of brow when he set down the Tower over both ladies. A stone tower, struck by lightning, a crown and two figures falling from it.

Shattering glass and the earthy epithet drew her attention with a flick of amethyst to the man digging through broken glass. At least for a moment. No comment however. That, didn't look good. "Who else 'm I gonna take down with me when I crash an' burn this time?" At least, that was the way the card looked from her view point. The rest, well she'd drag it back out in a moment most definitely.

"You already did."

"This is recent past. Complete, sudden change. Severing of ties. Abandonment. Adversity." Quiet and calm, a fanning of fingers to indicate position and the card, itself.

"You died. You were broken. You turned away, you were turned away."

The redneck perched on the railing flashed a quick, lightly warm smile in his direction -Solomones- that is. An attempt to convey the feeling of 'no worries.' And, Des had all of her attention now. A curious thing for some to be under that oddly warm amethyst gaze on the rare occasions that she actually focused completely. It wasn't something she did often. "Oh." Well, at least in theory, she wouldn't drag anyone along for the ride if she burned out and broke again in the future. Let her keep her theories. "That, doesn' sound like Elias and I. The, pattern's off for that. Devin or Cooper maybe." They'd both made ill-timed bids when she hadn't been ready for either of them. Or, well someone and something else entirely. The events at the tail end of January sprang to mind.

"Recent." He simply murmured, a lift of thin shoulders. "It is not always a violent thing. It can be as simple as the changing of an opinion."

Pale lids shuttered her eyes once while she canted her head to the right. "Oh." Apparently she really liked that syllable, a lot. It might help if she could wrap her mind around just how recent, recent really was. The filter of the cigarette she'd forgotten sent spinning to the lawn without looking, she brought her bottle of Pepsi up for a long swallow. "An opinion I had, that I changed, an' fucked someone else up in the process." There were two choices there, depending entirely on the level of fucking up she'd done. Flag of a chiming wave for the bruiser as a welcome, that action's tail end caught the guy playing peek-a-boo as well. If she weren't damn caught up in the card reading she'd finally gotten around to asking for, she'd actually speak to both.

"Above that, your goals. What you are heading for." Murmured, moving to place a card, finally, over the cross. He... winced faintly as he lay the card down. If there was ever a self-explanitory card, it was the ten of swords. A prone figure, with ten swords planted in its back. "...I ...rather doubt this is a goal. ..Unless there is someone you're really pissed off at." Well. It was a thought.

In the face of the bruiser's smile, something sun bright and flooded with easy and light warmth flared in return. She sighed quietly, shoulders bowing in self-defeat. " 'S an end right? An' not an easy one? Taken down from behind, by the ones I trust?" Her interpretations, well they can be a bit, fatalistic.

Or, paranoid, one of the two.

"No. It's called the back-stabbers card." A faint flickering of smile. "Betrayal. Not an end."

Faint trace of a smile. "Marks me as the back-stabber? Since 's m' readin', 's what 'm assumin'."

"Nightmares, paranoia, but -- oh, no. Well, in this position, it can mean as much, yes. But usually, it is something done to the questioner."

Well nightmares and paranoia she had in spades really. "Hunh." That, really was all she had to say about that.

He, well, was not terrifically concerned of it, himself. He set down the next card, to the right of the completed cross. "This is your question... Represents it." Seven of swords. A man stealing blades from a battle field.

She was supposed to have a question to ask? Thorn really should have paid better attention to all the other readings Des had done lately. She might have been prepared. "Someone else's leavings?"

"Yes. It does seem there will be a betrayal against you." A faint shrug, really. "Perhaps. To be stolen from. Taken from." He often took what was most confusing or serious in the main part of the reading for question.

For some reason, the question she herself just asked wasn't restful while looking at the card. "I was gonna ask if I'd have something for my heart." Not family, not property. "Guess I've got m'answer." Quiet, hushed laughter throbbed in the base of her throat. A crow's song of self-mockery. The chiming wave she flagged after Elle was an odd counterpoint.

"I get this one a lot there, yes." He agreed, a wry tilt of smile. "Don't worry. There's more." The next card up, above that. "The factors around it..." Well. He paused, but laid the card down without a word. Knight of Swords. A man on horseback, riding headlong in armor on a gray plain, sword drawn, a battlecry seeming on his lips.

And he moved on. Third card over. "Inner emotion. Two of Pentacles." A man pleasantly juggling two coins before the ocean. "You don't know. You have much to juggle and it is not balanced yet. But, it's fun to try."

She fell to fingering the plain ring that crowded one of the belled ones on her right hand again. It took much to not make the offer to Carter verbal again. Her eyes snapped to the guy with the notebook again, her turn to apologize through expressions. She disliked being rude to people she didn't know if they weren't complete asses. "I'm confused over someone who wants t' rescue me?" The words 'rescue me' were nearly spat out. She didn't like the thought of someone saving her ass, unless she seriously needed it.

"You'll know when his fine white charger shows up. "

She snorted wry amusement. "No one wants to rescue me Des. An', I'm the only one who really can anyway. I think."

"I think as well. Damsels are boring." Soft humor, and a slight shake of his head. "But, that one will be there for you. When you do need him."

"Very boring, broken winged little birds either get crushed under foot, 'r wind up married t' the man of their dreams." Sarcasm was such a fun one to play with oneself. " I can't argue with the cards kitten." Well, she could. But Thorn could argue with a rock if she needed/wanted to get her point across. "We'll see what happens when it happens." Sunnily smiling yes, dimples flanked the curve of plump lips.

"And outcomes. These aren't forever, it's usually just within a few months, if that." He added in a murmur, and an amused tick of glance. "I argue with them all the time."

Last card, he set on top, Ace of Swords. Really, quite a lot of blades, but considering all the sharp things Thorn favored, it was of no great surprise. A single drawn blade in a shaft of sun, wreathed with a laurel. "Success."

"Well, s' long's 'm not gonna wind up startin' a Save Thorn trend, life's all good." She was plainly teasing. "Carter, still think y' might wanna have a healer look at'cha." A quiet aside to the bruiser for tilting her head for the final card Des turned. Just a minute while she sorted through the other cards and their meanings to put them in order properly in her mind.

He waved a hand over the spread of cards with a faint shrug. "You will continue. And though guarded, you will prosper. Now you can ask if someone's going to ask you out on a date." Impish, briefly.

Des, just derailed her thoughtful ordering thanks much. The redneck crowed with full throated, bright laughter bred by his comment about a date.

"Ask." A sudden sunshine of smile, dimpled and warm, kittenish as his eye closed. The deck he took into his hand, fingers curled around it.

"When it's all said an' done, will I be happy?"

The deck opened, and he simply held up the card without looking. The Empress, a woman crowned in stars, alert, but at her leisure, seated in wheat and flowers.

How was that for a pain in the ass question to ask? Chime of a flagged wave Jarsyk's way, her attention centered almost completely on Des and the cards he'd been laying out. "As long as I'm willing to work for it, to work at it, to do what I need t' do t' earn it, yes?"

"Yes. And -- to accept it." That, more seriously, yes, the brow arched, his gaze steady. "To take it when you have set it before you."

Oh listen, sounds like sparky's back. "So, the things that've made me what I am have shaped me a bit too much, or not enough depending on what I'm tryin' t' do. The choices I've made, once I stepped back and thought about them they way I should have from the beginning, were the right ones. I'll be betrayed and have something stolen from me." And well that would be where her train of orderly thoughts petered out almost completely. Cue the confused bunny look.

"You second guess yourself very much, in matters of the heart and head. Not so much of the hand." Murmuring, thoughtful, in the gaze over the cards. "The quiet lay you are in now will not last, and will break apart to find that you're probably depressed, disgusted. And you'll get rescued, and you'll hate it and love it." He, well, he had to flare a smile to that. 'And, you will go on, strong, tempered steel."

"But you will have to believe you are worth that, yes?"

"You stab yourself in the back a lot, you know." She must be double jointed. But there was a real note of aggravation to his voice.

Mouth opened, mouth closed, no words though. At least, not right off the bat. Instead she took a moment to find, pull, and light a cigarette. "Well hell's bells." The darkly amused murmur was wreathed in smoke. "Dude, I sound like a chick." Blinkblink, head tilt, brow quirk. "The second guessin' thing? Or, som'thin' else?"

"The second guessing. No. You're just human." A soft laughter, his head shaking faintly. And then, finally, his head turned. Finally realizing, yes, more people had arrived -- and Ray was bailing. "Oh. Good evening.."

"Guess I should stop doin' that then." Much easier said than done, second guessing herself was as much a part of her make up as tending the people she cared about. Or, more precisely, the ones she thought were worth their skin.

"...I say that to me, all the time. I never listen. "

"Oh. And a date, for sissy?" He crooned it to the cards, wicked little imp dancing in the remaining eye, and again, he didn't bother looking, simply opened the deck to thrust the card out at Thorn: King of Cups. Looked ever so much like a certain hairball of their acquaintance, no?

...."I've already been on a date with Zeth." So neener. Right down to the prissy little facial expression too.


(This and the next are from logs of actual play, thanks to Des' player for this, and all the great 'play! Posted with permission, mildly edited.)

The Redneck

Date: 2012-03-12 11:48 EST
(January 17, 2008)

And yes, he was indeed playing "Ragdoll" on the dulcimer. Blessedly, it wasn't open mic night. Was it?

Right, so, there she was. Bouncing, literally, through the doors and heading directly for the youth with a paper bag that reeked of chocolate and baklava in her right hand. " 'Lo Little Love." Chirruped. Nope, that's tomorrow.

Oooohhhh. A segue into a fanfare as Thorn bounded in, flick of fingertips over the strings before he set the instrument aside, flaring sunshine of smile. "Good evening. More chocolate?"

"Chunks made me some brownie baklava, an' ohmygod it's so good." Yes, the bag was being waved as close to under Des' nose as possible. "Hi, how're you?" Dimple flanked grin flared to life readily and easily even as she swooped in to brush a kiss against his forehead.

Shark attack to claim the bag, yes, but leaned to the kiss. "I'm fine, I took Tina out to lunch and we just sort of walked around after that." Admitted, while stuffing his face in the bag. Which wouldn't hide much the pink quick to rise to his skin, but he could dream.

"Didj'all have a good time?" Because, well it had to be asked. Or Thorn thought it had to be. And, carefully she flopped down beside him on the couch, hopefully without disturbing his playing.

"Yes." He'd set the dulcimer aside, in favor of the brownies, yes. "We talked, and just ..." A tilt of head, thinking. "Just walked around, really, looking at shops and people". A flash of smile and quickly shoving food in his face, that would help.

"How's it feel t' be datin' someone y' like?" Sounded like a date to Thorn. "An' 'm glad y'all had a good time t'gether."

He flushed red all over again, and reached for the chocolate coffee to wash down the brownie before speaking. But nodding, yes. "It's fun. She doesn't really know what she likes or doesn't like yet, so we're finding out."

" 's a discovery trip, for both'a you at the same time. Think it totally rocks Des." Pleased as punch oh yes indeed. "An', I finished that list. Felt kinda wrong doin' it though." One of her twitches, no worries really. A much folded piece of notebook paper tugged out of the interior pocket of her coat and handed over to the youth. Please don't make her read it aloud, she'll squirm.

"I figured it would. It's the hardest thing to learn for a lot of people, that it's okay to be nice to yourself. To take pride in and even show it off now and then." Explaining, and likely too, his reasoning for requesting it. He took the paper and unfolded it, settling to read.

" 'S easier t' be nice t' other people, an' point out their good things than it is t' see 'em in y'rself sometimes. An' show 'em off." A shrug rolled over her shoulders before she bounced up and went hopping to the counter to get her own coffee, as well as a refill for Des.

"It's too easy to start sounding stupid or whiny." Agreeing, glancing up with a flash of smile. Nodding. "This is a good start. I won't make you tape it to your bathroom mirror to read every morning."

Petulant she eyed him aside. "Please don't." Would puppy dog eyes help? Probably not since her lips were twitching toward a smile during the whole liquid eyeing thing. "An' I hate soundin' stupid or whiny. Reminds me too much'a a lotta other people we know."

"Insisting you are good is a lot different from being good, yes." Humored, very, and shifted to get into his dispatch case. Bea was already loose, the fluff pup was passed out on the back of the sofa behind his neck, and rolled down when he leaned over. "Did you have a question, a point to start from...? "

"True, 's very true kitten." Humorous as well, and resettling on the couch beside him with a scritch to Bea's ears. Blinkblink. Hell, she'd spent so much time on the list she hadn't though about a question. "Uhm, not really? Is that bad?"

"No, that's fine." Hushing laughter, taking the cards and shuffling them carefully, precise and thin hands, watching his work under lowered lids. Bea, she just made herself comfortable in the small of his back, stretched out to get the ear scritches, yes. "I wondered if you did, you seemed very distinct in wanting one. Very focused. As if you were putting a goal in mind."

Sheepish she shrugged up her shoulders and smile prettily. "I remembered the readings you did last year, an' the one y' did for me. An' thought it might be a good idea t' see if anythin'd changed y' know? An', 'cause I was wonderin' if my finally lettin' all the way go of Elias changed an'thin' y' know?" Okay, so maybe she did, or could, have a question or two to start from. But they were nebulous things really. "Same goal as always really; be healthy an' happy." She just, sort of confused herself.

"And wondering, what comes next...?" Another shuffle, slower, as if, and he was, drawing as much from her as he could to bring to the cards.

"Pretty much yeah. What, if anything, comes next. Still worry sometimes that I won't fall again. Either that I'm broken inside, or that that was it. Haven't even come close to fallin' for anyone, haven't even come close to the edge of fallin'." She'd refilled his coffee, and nudged the cup closer to his left side with little knocks of her fingers. "An' I know that some'a the hurt an' sh*t was 'cause'a dyin' 'round a month after he left. Got all bound up and twisted together you know?"

"Yes." Nodding, and considering. "Falling... In love? It hurts when you hit the ground." Simply, but a twitch of a smile. "I think, you have a little more fairy tale in you than you think. Not that love's a fairy tale, but the falling..."

"It does yeah. And it hurts while you're falling because it's scary and you don't know if anyone's going to be there when you hit the ground to catch you or kiss your owies." Yes she'd said kiss your owies. Then promptly grimaced, grumbled, and sighed in resignation. "I do. Have more fairytale in me than I'd like to admit, especially about the fall. Don't think I'd change that if I could."

"It isn't always like that. Sometimes, the fairy tale part, that comes later." Pointed out, a slight shrug and quirking of smile, almost amused. "But I know what now. If you can, if you will, if it's there, if it's possible..." The deck, he set before her. "Cut it thrice."

"And sometimes, it doesn't come at all." A shrug of her own lifted her shoulders before she reached for and cut the deck. Three stacks of cards, unequal in height.

Neat, he lifted the stack out of order, likely in response to the unequal stacks. And settled to set down the central card. "The indicator, the self. You, or your issue." Murmuring. Queen of Cups, inverted. This, not only did not surprise him, but gained a hush of laughter. A young blond woman in fine trappings, holding a cup in her hands and gazing into the contents rather than drinking. "There, is a woman with everything, and she still seeks more. Not in a greedy manner, but rather, to see what else there may be. But it's inverted, you let that seeking hamper you. Perhaps you feel it's silly or not worth the time. Or it is such a focus that you won't focus on it, and end up focusing all the more on it." Say that five times fast.

She chuckled low in the base of her throat, though not even she could tell if it was a humorous sound or not. "And by that, tie my own hands." Lips twitching toward a wry smile yes.

"Oh, yes. Very easy to allow that seeking to become the end, rather than the means. To where you don't see the forest for the trees." Nodding, and drawing the next card to lay across the first. "What crosses you, or hinders you..." Pause. He stifled a soft laugh before he set the card down. Knight of rods, they'd seen him before in her readings, hadn't they? The handsome blond man, riding across a desert scape. He lay that down and did not say a word.

"..." Thorn, had no clue what to say about that. Well, all right so she did. "The knight riding to my rescue, helps me to tie my own hands. Helps me keep myself from reaching, or letting myself reach?" Was that, close?

"He's right there." A faint lift of thin shoulders. "He stands at an impasse, patience. He is yours to keep or dismiss. It could read that the queen, herself, is crossing herself, just in the inversion. "

No, that wasn't close was it? "Because she doesn't know what she wants, just like she never knows what she wants until she wants it. Kinda feel bad for the guy." She wasn't being a smart ass there at all really.

"You know what I would say, just being me, so we'll see what else the cards have to say." Sunny shine of his smile, oh yes. "I wouldn't feel sorry for him. He wouldn't be there at all if he didn't want to be. Goal, or destiny."

From the lift of her brows she may not know exactly what he'd say, but she could guess it came down to crap or get off the pot.

That card, above the crossed pair. Six of pentacles, a kindly wealthy man gladly giving coin to poor children, in his other hand, a scale. "Ohhh." That card, changed his "crap or get off the pot" response. "Balance, and what is given, is given freely, gladly, and without any desire of anything in return other than the smiles."

" Whether you like it or not, what you have is fully enjoyed and understood." He even waggled a forefinger at her.

Sweet! Ahem. A nod dipped her chin. " 'S what he said, close to it. Talked to him a while back." The waggled forefinger she couldn't help but reach out and grasp it. Sort of like a hug really. "I do like it, just. Wonder some times. And I can't help the wonderin'."

Nodding, a glance to the first card, touching it with his other hand. "Seeking. Wondering if there might be more. Not wanting to settle for less than what could be. Afraid of hurting a good man. And worried that this is all there is."

Oh damnit. The truth of that along with the simple fact that the same doubts and fears, almost word for word, had been circling in her mind and heart for a year and a half by Rhy'din's calendar brought the glaze of tears to her eyes. "Yeah, that'd be it in a nutshell. More worried 'bout hurtin' him than this is all 'm ever gonna be able to have. Or let myself have because I can't or won't fall again." Girl moment, sort of. Knuckles scraped away the salt that escaped the trap of dark lashes to trace the curves of her cheeks.

A nod, and he let that lay for the moment, reaching for the next card to set under the crossed pair. "Distant past foundation." And turned the card. Queen of Pentacles, an older dark haired woman in a garden, holding a rabbit and a coin, surrounded in flowers and fruit. "Grandma?" Rabbits being a threefold symbol: Fertility, astrological, and the east coast version of Coyote.

Grandmother again. "Again yeah. Think she showed up in the same place last time. We raised some animals for meat an' use, rabbits and chickens mostly. She's where I got my love of roses from, my need for 'em. Home's not home without roses outside the doors. An' we had a garden too, vegetables more'n fruit." Definitely Grandma.

"She is the foundation where you should stand. The voice of the past you should hear. Listen for her." A slight shrug and tilt of smile. "She is the true foundation of how you build your love." Thorn needed a "WWGD?" bracelet


Auburn brows beetled over the bridge of her nose in thought. "Right off the top'a my head? I'd say tooth and nail. Gramma fought for damn near everything tooth and nail, at least until she got too tired to fight any more. But, 's not quite right I don't think. Doesn't feel right all the way." She did yes!

"When she received what she wanted without asking..." Murred, thoughtful, his head tilted. "But otherwise, this would be Paige, or someone you never met, died before you were born. Could even be the person your mother should have been." If it was Paige, Thorn was doomed to many, many children. Haha!

Not if she never petitioned for them! Neener! "I've, never traced my line back very far. Only met m' great-gramma on Mother's side once, an' I was three at the time. Remember afternoon sunlight through yellowed lace curtains, a big four-poster bed, the stands black with age, the light's buttery colored, the room's quiet. Hushed. But I don't remember her face." Though that amount of recall from such a young age, for some might be surprising on its own merits. "If 's Paige, 's at mean 'm gonna wind up shootin' whomever I wind up in the ass a lot?" Had to yes. Nothing mentioned over who her mother should have been.

"You remember that much, at three." A quirk of brow. "And the colors are right. ...Yes." A flash of grin, moving to the next card. "Recent past events. These always are suck cards with you." Pointing out, and drawing a card to lay to the left of the spread. Pause. This time, it wasn't. Queen of rods, inverted. A mature blond woman, holding a sunflower, throned in sunlight, a cat in her lap, a lion on her throne. The card he usually drew for Paige! "Paige told you something, and you're still deciding if you want to believe her or not." Nod.

She nodded a positive answer for that, even if it hadn't been a question. Blinkblink. Dear gods Paige told her a lot of things that she wasn't exactly sure about! Especially when they were things that related directly to Thorn. "That's not a suck card?" Because, well she would be more than a little surprised if they broke her streak honestly. "Lessee." Thinking cap, on. Might explain the smoke slowly curling out of her ears yes. "That, knowing my own worth, isn't really being all puffed up and conceited about it. That, if a man doesn't want me, there's something wrong with him." That had her lips twitching humorously though. "That, I should never, ever doubt if I'm good enough for someone, because I'm more than good enough for anyone." There had been other things, but they weren't springing to mind just yet.

"No, not at all. It means, you are based with something you never had or knew or believed in before: positive female influence. They're like you, they love you, they want you to succeed." And nodded, a nearly smug smile lifting to his lips. "Yes. Precisely." No, not at all meaning, it was not a suck card, yes.

Or he could mess with her and tell her she was becoming a lesbian.

"Oh, all right." An inadequate phrase really, though it was the best she could do while mulling that over. "Blood then, or Paige yeah." Because Paige was the most positive female influence Thorn had had since leaving California. Hell, Paige was one of the only female influences Thorn had currently. The redneck wasn't much of a fan of women in general.

That'd be so wrong Des! Funny as hell, but wrong!

"Both, likely. A call back to the past." He murmured, nodding. And drew the next card, the two of rods, inverted. A man richly dressed, holding a globe of the earth in one hand, a staff in the other, watching the ocean from a stone porch. A lily and rose intertwined beside him. "Future influences, this, would seem to mean, they will come while you are watching. And be careful not to lose the forest for the trees."

"I suck at that. Lose a forest for the trees too easy most'a the time. Or lose a tree in a forest that I don't even see." Head tipped while she eyed the card critically. "Hnh. That's kinda the opposite way it's supposed to happen isn't it? Things usually come when you're not watching. Or, they do for me. Did for me." Not arguing or negating, just stating really. "I should watch, maybe look. See what's to be seen because it'll come while I'm watching for it?"

Then, lifted his head, brows arching. "You've let it go. Let it go. Don't allow it to become a sticking point, where you're so intent on the thought you've let it go that it becomes your only thought." That, then answered her question. "You are looking for it. You have been. You're not fixated on it, but you could be. You have cemented your position, and you can loosen it. It's all right to look for it, but to be inflexible -- you may as well not see at all. You can only see one point, and there is the entire world to look at."

There was a series of rapid-fire blinks shuttering her eyes then. "Oooh." A wealth of understanding packed into that drawn out syllable yes. A sort of understanding dawning in her eyes when she nodded. Just, no more words. Either she'd run out of them, or couldn't find the right ones.

"Notice this." He added, a slow sweep of his hand, palm up, over the cards. "All of them are oranges, yellows, and reds."

It was a noticeably sunny spread of cards, yes. He flickered a swift grin, reaching for the deck once more. "This, represents the questions we've made. In a sense, it represents where you are at this point in time."

Always a somewhat daunting card. He drew it and stifled a laugh, because the card fell -- inverted. Nine of swords, a weeping figure with swords lined up alongside it. As it set it down, he pointed at her. "See? See? Everything. It's right there. You let go. You worry. You worry about love, about people, friends, family. And most of all, you would have rather written your faults out than your good points."

And leaned back -- until he remembered Bea at the small of his back -- and smugly, drank his coffee.

"Okay." A slight rise in her voice hinting at a question. Though she hushed directly after to listen. "I'm in a sunny place, a warm place. A good place, on the whole, right now, in a sense." Wait, she'd just had a cheerful and sunshiny reading? Maybe he should check for a pod-Thorn? "Letting go, actually letting go. That was the key yeah?" Amethyst eyes flicked to Des for confirmation on that, even though she did barrel on directly after.

"Always worry about people, friends, family, and love. Well, more the first three than the last one." Her eyes left his face to look at the cards again.

"And because I wrote down my good points, and refused to think about my faults."

A nod, then he laughed, soft and gentle. "It's this card, inverted, because it's so hard for you to believe you are in that sunny, warm place."

"..And something embarrassed you." Added thoughtfully, his head tilted.

"Because I wrote them down, and in some way owned them, and sort of celebrated them by the recording -- I lost it." She meant she'd lost her train of thought really. Avian canting of her head and the beginnings of a bright smile.

"No, because that was hard for you to do." A soft chuckling, eyes squeezed shut kittenishly. "One day, this card will be the Sun. "

"The sunny, warm place, it's coming after some dark and cold that cut deep, so it feels shaky yet. The Sun?" Yes, skipping over the embarrassed part!

"Yes. This card is standing in for the Sun, because you are having trouble believing there is this much good and positive around you -- and in you". He probably didn't want to know the embarrassed part, did he?

It wasn't nearly as bad as her usual embarrassed parts, so maybe? "Oh, okay. I get it now." Her hands spread into a bit of a shrug. "Sometimes it feels like nothing I do is quite right. That's when I forget that I can't make everyone happy without short changing myself really bad."

"That's it exactly." A humorous flash of smile. He decided, for now, to leave the embarrassed be, unless it showed up later. "The influences around this, and you..."

The next card, the Chariot, inverted. A man driving a chariot, yin-yang born on it, drawn by a black sphinx and a white one. A night scene. "You will seek your balance. You have to find your stride in this sunshine when you've been used to the dark for so long."

"And when I find my stride here where the warmth and light are, it'll take a lot to knock me back down again." There was conviction and belief in her tone, steel under the velvetted twang. And yes, more than a little bit of hope.

"Yes." Nodding, a warmth of smile returned. The next card reached for, yes. "Inner hopes, desires, wishes..." Thoughtful, head tipped as he turned the card. Pause. He ALMOST redrew, but then, laughing, set the card down anyhow. The Devil! "Get batteries."

"..." That card just doomed her to celibacy didn't it?

Quite the opposite. He picked up the deck and showed her a card before looking at it himself: Another ROD card.

Thorn, cracked up. Even though she was fairly certain that she'd be, getting to know herself quite well it was still funny!

"Poor Zeth. He'll be a shadow of himself." Tsking softly. His cheeks were scarlet, but he was very amused. "Your sexuality is not anything to fear, or hide, or do anything to but enjoy. "

OH! The laughter died off abruptly. She'd misinterpreted the cards obviously. Then picked up again. "Ohgods." Hang on, she'll be more mature in a couple of seconds. Maybe.

He was actually used to this sort of turn in readings, but it didn't keep his cheeks from flaming hotly. Moving RIGHT along, then, he went for the last card... And got the Heirophant. A judge, and he left that card set, shoulders shaking to pick another from the deck randomly. ...And another. Sputtering, he left it again. "You will judge yourself harshly, you always do -- but this time fairly, and find peace in it." Pause. "Or, you'll get married."

There we are yes. Ahem. Cough-choke-snicker-snort. The Heirophant had her sobering abruptly, looking from the card to Des and back again before offering her own take on it. "..." Which was nothing like Des'! The mention of marriage, had her squawking inarticulately though.

It's a marriage card! He half stood, toppling Bea to the cushion, to lean over and point point point at Thorns' nose "It means I'm right, there is more than one way to fall in love than the one you know, and you'll have to face it!"

"Okay. Thought the Heirophant represented someone other than me judgin' me." Blinkblnk! Leaned back away from the card before her eyes got stuck crossed. "I know there's more than one way to fall in love Des. 'S just, been almost a year, and I haven't even come close to falling. Haven't even come near an edge to fall off of. Not even a little dip." For Thorn? That was, odd. Hence the fear of never being able to fall again.

Card, his finger, whichever it happened to be really.

"Well, I don't know who he could be." A soft hushing of laughter, and looking at the card as a personal representor rather than an event indicator. "A priestly judge of some status, wise and just?"

Brow quirked. "Don't know anyone like that honestly." Head tipped slightly to the right with laughter dancing in her eyes and throbbing in her throat. " 'Less Rick's ordained somewhere." She meant that as a joke really. "Or you." That one too!

"Rick's holy. I'm not, really. ...Holy in neutrality. But I'm not old." He was, if one went by his actual age rather than his physical. "I think, you will come to judge for yourself, what it is. What is love?" A slight lift of his shoulders. "I didn't get to court or any of that, Tina. I was just guaranteed she would be there. I like her. So... I can't realize I love her madly and ask her to marry me... But... there's no law saying I can't enjoy getting to know her and showing her off and just... having her."

Instead of answering the question regarding love, she sipped her coffee and organized her thoughts. "Why not? Who or what says you can't realize you're madly in love with her and ask her to marry you even with the contract? You're already sort of courting her now aren't you? The outings," since dates made him blush so hard! "The time you spend together just the two of you. Getting to know each other and such, that's courting isn't it?"

"Because there's no chance she can say 'no'." Took all the cold sweat out of the deal, yes. "But I can..." Blush? He most certainly did. "Well. I don't know if it's because it's fun, I like to flirt, and I finally can with someone that won't take it wrong. I mean, I want her to stay with me. She can leave me after five years, but I don't want her to."

She nodded, smiling tenderly. "Then, court her just like you would if you were afraid she'd say no. In some ways, she is saying no. Just, not no to you and marraige." Did that make any sense? It had while it was in her head really.

"To me...? I suppose that is so. I have been. It's fun." Admitted, his smile sudden and sweet. "I don't know if I love her, or if she loves me, or if she's even capable of it right now. I do know I don't want her to go. And stop analyzing me, it's you we're tormenting."

Soft tap of his fingertip to the last four cards. "Accept yourself. It's good. You'll come out of this night past your own judging into the sun."

Pretty smile! "You're the one who's engaged." As if that made it totally okay. "That's, the hardest thing. I do, mostly, accept myself. Or, I think I do. Maybe I only accept parts of myself, or most of myself."

"This isn't evil. You see it as something monstrous. It's not. It's a lot of things that are very human that we try to keep hidden for various reasons." Tapping, of course, the Devil. "Your judgement will change this card to the nine of pentacles, or one like it. And that judgement will turn that to the Fool. Where you start anew, fresh and joyous."

She nodded in agreement and acceptance yes. "All depending on which steps I take along the way. Or which fork in my path I decide to follow for how long." Or something like that. Thorn's brain was going a little melty.

"You know the one to take." Hushing laughter, taking up the cards easily. "Follow from behind. You have words you haven't heard yet to guide you. Go find your grandmother, and great grandmother. I think they have something to tell you. I think Paige may be your guide to them.

"I will yeah. Like seein' Gramma anyway." Oh, he wasn't meaning literally seeing them was he? "I'll listen to what Paige says, an' relisten to what she has said yeah." Sleepy little smile tipped before she brushed a kiss to Des' cheek and finally got around to stealing a squeezy hug.

Hugged, yes, and he hushed a laugh. He may well mean literally, he did talk to ghosts! "Ask her about it, yes. I'm going to go crawl in bed with you." Announced.

"That works for me." Both the asking and the crawling. "An' y'r cheesecakes're at the house." More than one oh yes most definitely. As soon as he was ready, she'd Gate them to her home and to bed yes.

Yay! He's beat!